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September 07, 2012

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Average Jane

I think we talk a lot less about personal finance in this country that we ought to. That may be part of the reason the 1% truly doesn't understand how little money everyone else has once the basics are covered.

Laurie

Hi Liz. I love that you're writing about this. I haven't gotten to tis point, but it's a possibility, who knows?

My question is, what do you do for things that require a credit card? Say you needed to stay in a hotel, or rent a car? My life occasionally requires this, just for work purposes. I'd love to bag credit, but that seems like an exception I'd have to make.

lizriz

Bankruptcy is a scary thing to write about, to be sure, but yeah, nobody talks about it, and that's not a good thing. I probably should have declared bankruptcy in 2003, but most of us don't have people in our life that give that kind of advice or even understand it really.

Laurie - A debit card makes bankruptcy much more doable, but yeah, it's rental cars and hotel rooms that'll get ya. The one hotel I've had to look into charged only an additional $75 to book a room on a credit card - you get it back, but you have to have it available for them to hold on to. I've not checked into it, but I believe for rental cars it's much, much higher, like $500 or more.

Mel B

Thanks for writing about this. The specific things you learned about bankruptcy, are those things you will be sharing on here? I would like to learn more about it.

Thanks for the answers to Laurie's questions about booking without having a credit card. I was wondering the same thing.

The one thing I'm surprised about is that you still have your student loan to pay off. So bankruptcy only covers certain bills not everything that you owe?

AMusingMarina

Regarding the issue of food, may I suggest sardines? Super healthy but cheap and so very delish with some black pepper and turmeric!
Maybe you can start growing some potted herbs/greens and look into joining a community garden if there's one nearby. I've been saving lots of money lately by foraging for blueberries and raspberries... there must be some nice fruit trees in CA on public lands?

lizriz

Hi MelB - I do intend to blog more about bankruptcy. I need to do some research before I write a particularly financial post - when I took the financial counseling course I wasn't taking notes, and if I write something up here I'd want to flesh out my financial knowledge on the topic and have lots of good links for people. So my next post on the topic will likely be more personal about my experience.
And yes, student loans cannot be discharged. So, for example, if like me you've got your student loans in forbearance for years while you pay credit cards, this is not a wise financial decision.
Marina, thanks for the great suggestions! :)

AMusingMarina

Wow, financial aid people don't make it clear that student loans are treated differently in terms of bankruptcy... I had no idea. Your post is very timely, have you seen this scary NYT article from yesterday? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/business/once-a-student-now-dogged-by-collection-agencies.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&pagewanted=all

lizriz

You know, I can't even remember when I learned that student loans were exempted from bankruptcy, but I already knew it when I started the process. Whenever I learned it, I'm sure I thought it was just irrelevant information - *I* was never going to declare bankruptcy, right? Yeah...
Reading that article is terrifying! I was very fortunate to consolidate my loans at a super low interest rate, and I always applied for forbearance and was granted it when I was having financial difficulties. So while I will be paying for the next twenty years, I'm in pretty good shape and SO grateful for it!

Rita Arens

This is so helpful, Liz, just to think about. I have ridiculous fears of bankruptcy, and maybe I shouldn't be quite so freaked out.

lizriz

Thanks, Rita! I was REALLY REALLY freaked out about it, even when I had no doubts it was the right and only thing to do. Gonna write more about that soon...

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